UNCONSCIOUS SEEING LATER REMEMBERED
Aaron Sloman

Originally posted with title "Unconscious seeing".


This file is available as
http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/cogaff/misc/unconscious-seeing.html

A partial index of discussion notes is in
http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/cogaff/misc/AREADME.html


UNNOTICED QUALIA

This is a demonstration that you may see something and be totally unaware that you have seen it, simply because you have not processed the information in the right way. Later, even when the original object is out of sight, you can sometimes discover (even with your eyes closed) what you previously saw, because you still have the information readily available. The qualia were constructed and made available, but not attended to.

However the demonstration will not work for everyone: some people realise immediately what they have seen, and not everyone who fails to see it responds to the prompts when the original presentation is out of sight.

I have been using variants of this experiment in talks on vision for different sorts of audience since the mid 1980s. It usually works on a subset of the audience, e.g. between about 30% and 70% -- though I have not kept detailed records.

Alternative: view the demo on Youtube
There are two versions of the presentation: one uses this web site with a lot of textual material explaining what to do, but having to read the text may interfere with some of the processes.

To avoid that, a video version can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/JxjbIo72Gi8
(I now think that the original version of the video left the text visible for too long. The time has now been shortened (28 Jun 2021).
I suggest trying the video before looking at the non-video version presented below. But if you are unable to view a Youtube video you may find the version below of interest.

How it works

Please do not read the rest of this page until you have done the experiment.

I think my earliest published reference to the experiment described here was in Sloman (1978), "What About Their Internal Languages?" Commentary on three articles

by Premack, D., Woodruff, G., by Griffin, D.R., and by Savage-Rumbaugh, E.S., Rumbaugh, D.R., Boysen, S. in Behavioral and Brain Sciences Journal 1978, 1 (4) pp. 515. http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/cogaff/62-80.html#1978-02

There is an extended discussion of the issues in:

See also
  • http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/cogaff/misc/blackmore-zen-consciousness.html
    Some comments on Susan Blackmore's little book "Zen and the Art of Consciousness" (Previously published as "Ten Zen Questions").

  • This is a small part of the Meta-Morphogenesis project
    http://tinyurl.com/CogMisc/meta-morphogenesis.html

  • Some of the processes of mathematical discovery involve similar mechanisms, since such discoveries often involve noticing an aspect of what you were previously conscious of, but did not notice. Examples, using experiences of triangles can be found in this draft paper: "Hidden Depths of Triangle Qualia: Theorems About Triangles, and Implications for Biological Evolution and AI". The mechanisms involved seem to be closely related to mechanisms required for perception and use of various kinds of affordances (including types not noticed, or discussed, by James Gibson). There are more mathematical examples in this discussion of "Toddler Theorems"

    For more on the need to generalise Gibson's theory of affordances (and fix broken theories about the functions of vision in animals and future robots) see this presentation: What's vision for and how does it work?

  • This report on a case of blindsight is also relevant
    "Blind Man Sees With Subconscious Eye" by Joe Palca NPR, 23 December, 2008
    Blind Man Unknowingly Navigates Obstacle Course
    Watch A Video Of The Experiment. (Joe Palca, Kathleen Masterson)
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98590831&sc=emaf
    "TN has what is known as blind sight, according to de Gelder. Even though the primary part of his brain that processes visual information is destroyed, he still has more primitive parts of his brain intact, and these are capable of doing some visual processing. After all, one of the most basic functions of the visual system is to help an animal avoid obstacles or predators. TN still has some visual abilities - he's just not aware he has them."

  • For more philosophical and logical fun and challenges see Ron Barnette's web site:
    Zeno's Coffeehouse including an online mind-reader partly related to this site.
    Added 13 Mar 2013: Thanks
    I am grateful for comments received from Gillian Barker, Andrew Brook, and Ned Block, after I announced the availability of this demo in a philosophy list in March 2013.

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