http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/misc/self-awareness.txt From Aaron Sloman Fri Sep 24 10:42:55 BST 1999 From: Aaron Sloman Subject: varieties of self-awareness (Was: Re: grooming) To: PSYCHE-B@listserv.uh.edu Bernie Baars wrote: > I thought Ramon Moore's idea about self-grooming and its relevance to > consciousness and self was really very interesting. Sue Pockett objects that > the mirror test is often considered to be "the" measure of physical self > recognition, but I have always been somewhat uncomfortable with that. The > fact that humans and some primates recognize a mark on their foreheads while > other big-brained creatures don't ,strikes me as pretty arbitrary. Other > species may recognize their own pheromones --- who is to say which is more > fundamental? Here's something I have often wondered about: many animals use bits of themselves to do things to other things (e.g food), and treat their body parts differently from the other things. E.g. A carnivorous bird may use its claws to hold a captured animal against the branch it has perched on while it pecks bits of flesh off. Do such birds ever peck their own feet? Animals with long tails can pounce on and bite moving objects? Do they ever try to eat their own tails? 1. Is there very precise (genetically determined?) control of pecking/biting by visual and tactile cues which ensures that no error ever occurs? How, exactly? 2. Do they make errors and then learn from the unpleasant result that this sort of object is to be avoided (even though it may taste good!!)? What exactly do they learn in this case? See next question. 3. When they make the distinction between bits of themselves and the rest of the physical world: is there any representation, within the animal, of itself as having an extended body of which *this* is a part and *that* isn't, or is there simply a shallow behavioural rule (as implied by 1)? Or are there far more alternatives than those two? Have ethologists or psychologists investigated these questions? The kind of "self-awareness" described here involves separating the *physical* world into self and non-self (possibly while transformting bits of the latter into the former!), and that is, of course, different from the kind of self-awareness involved in knowing that one has visual, tactile or other experiences, which has led to all the philosophical discussion about qualia. Both are different from the kind of self awareness involved in knowing that one is selfish, clever, easily embarrassed, etc. Or knowing where one is in a pecking order. Maybe there are other kinds of self-awareness. E.g. can a hunted stag distinguish states when it is nearly exhausted from states when it is still fresh, and change its behaviour accordingly (e.g. searching for a place to hide vs trying to out-run a predator)? Again, if this occurs, is it triggered by a shallow behavioural rule or is it part of a more general ability to represent itself as having a collection of time-varying states which can be thought about independently of triggering specific responses? I suspect only the former. How many significantly different kinds of self-awareness are there? By "significantly different" I mean being capable of existing in an animal without the other kinds, and therefore making use of different information processing architectural features, and possibly being put to different uses. All sorts of homeostasis involve a very simple kind of self-awareness. Biological evolution is a damn good engineer. As information processing capabilities of organisms evolved and analog feedback loops were supplemented with many other kinds of control mechanisms, it is likely that organisms developed many different ways of acquiring, storing and using diverse kinds of information about themselves. Some of those might be restricted to self-representation (e.g. body temperature? nutrient levels?) and others equally applicable to self and to something else e.g. information about physical extent, about spatial location, about direction of movement, about location in a social hierarchy. My guess is that there are MANY different kinds of self-awareness, and when we have distinguished them clearly we'll be surprised to find how many of them occur in all sorts of animals. And in things like computer operating systems, word processors, compilers, spreadsheets, etc. Cheers. Aaron === Aaron Sloman, ( http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ ) School of Computer Science, The University of Birmingham, B15 2TT, UK EMAIL A.Sloman@cs.bham.ac.uk Phone: +44-121-414-4775 (Sec 4774) Fax: +44-121-414-4281 http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/poplog/freepoplog.html