Ths file is http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/cogaff/misc/messages-to-isre.txt It includes two messages posted to ISRE (International Society for Research on Emotions) on 17 Jul 2005 in answer to a requst for help from an emotion researcher. It immediately generated some favourable responses, so I thought it might be of wider interest. I may later produce a version in HTML. Aaron http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ From Aaron Sloman Sun Jul 17 12:22:26 BST 2005 To: ISRE-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU Subject: Re: [ISRE-L] Individuating emotions Kristján Kristjánsson asked for help relating to individuating 'real' emotions. > A feature of cognitive theories of emotions, which many of us > philosophers interested in emotions find unsettling, is their potential > for endless, uncontrollable proliferation of kinds of emotion, or - put > in different terms - their lack of rigor in individuating 'real' > emotions. It does not matter here whether we understand the cognitive > element of emotion to constitute a judgment, belief or construal; there > seems at first glance no limit to the kinds of emotion we can posit by > combining a judgement, belief or construal with a desire/concern and > affect. I think this is a very important, largely unnoticed, point about the variety of phenomena which people call emotions. The explanation offered below is that we are dealing with a 'generative' system, analogous to generative grammars. Apologies for length. A similar point can be made about motivation, attitudes, preferences, ideals, and other kinds of affective phenomena, as well as more general cognitive phenomena such as intentions, beliefs, imaginings, puzzlement, perceptions, etc. A failure to understand the reasons for the 'endless proliferation' leads to attempts to classify emotions (and other things) in terms of EITHER sets of dimensions (e.g. each emotion is a combination of some set of attribute values -- often limited to two dimensions because that's all people can easily draw in their diagrams or visualise!) OR a taxonomy which is a tree generated by a collection of questions about the emotion, where branches at a node of the tree represent different answers to the question asked at that node The taxonomy approach is more powerful because it allows different cases with different kinds of complexity, whereas the dimensions approach leads to fixed kinds of complexity: every case is represented by a vector of features, where all the vectors have the same number of features. But BOTH approaches are, in the long run, of limited scientific value because they (usually) focus on 'surface' features of emotions (etc): things that can be observed or measured, rather than on the kinds of *underlying* structures and mechanisms that are capable of generating the variety under study. Compare A: ancient attempts to classify kinds of physical matter, and kinds of processes, in terms of what we observe or measure about them, with B: the modern approach of the physical sciences, that postulates an ontology containing a variety of structures (e.g. molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles) that can exist in many different kinds of relationships whose complexity varies depending on the number of components (e.g organic vs inorganic molecules), where the variety of processes that can occur depends on how the components of different structures interact and change their relationships thereby consuming or producing ambient energy or matter and producing effects of very different types and very different complexity. In general, explanatory constructs of type B go far beyond what can be directly measured or observed and depends on creative leaps generating novel hypotheses that can rarely be directly confirmed or refuted (with or without the use of statistics!), but which may or may not (as Imre Lakatos documented) survive a lengthy period of critical analysis, testing, and refinement in competition with other explanatory hypotheses. Sometimes only future technology can yield some of the data needed to choose between rival explanatory hypotheses if they are really creative. My impression is that much of the study of emotions (and other psychological phenomena) still uses conceptual frameworks like A, above, (often because that is mistakenly taken to be how physics works), whereas we actually need new analogues of B, where the underlying components are not necessarily physical and chemical structures and processes (though at bottom, that's the implementation level), but more abstract structures and processes, such as occur in complex virtual machines in information processing systems. These abstract virtual-machine components can be forms of representation, semantic contents, mechanisms for acquiring, storing, transforming, combining, analysing, matching, decomposing, inferring, and using many different kinds of information in generating, controlling, modulating, or terminating, many different kinds of processes -- often several processes in parallel with emergent interactions between them. [ Note: the concept of 'information' used here is no more explicitly definable in terms of more familiar primitives than the concept of 'energy' in physics, for reasons explained in this presentation: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/cogaff/talks/#inf ] Thus, instead of construing anger as (for example) a mixture of observable or measurable, physiological, behavioural and/or neural processes, we can construe different sorts of anger as involving different kinds of interactions between percepts, motives, values, beliefs, expectations, desires, intentions, and various kinds of voluntary and involuntary control processes, occurring simultaneously in different parts of a complex information-processing architecture. (A first draft theory can use common sense categorisations of these underlying mental structures and processes, such as might be given by a novelist or garden-gate gossip -- but we'll need to progress beyond those to deeper explanatory constructs -- such as those being explored in AI, clinical and developmental psychology, linguistics, etc., though there's still a long way to go.) Variations in kinds of structure and complexity of states of anger, fear, hope, joy, dismay, surprise, pride, jealousy, infatuation, schadenfreude, etc., are closer to the kinds of variation in sorts of structure and complexity of interactions between complex molecules than anything that is easily represented as a node in a taxonomy or as a list of features. (A small subset is analysed usefully in A. Ortony, G.L. Clore, A. Collins, The Cognitive Structure of the Emotions, Cambridge University Press, 1988) The notion of a 'grammar' that is capable of generating an infinite (or astronomically large) variety of sentences of many different structures and functions from a relatively small set of components and recursive relationships, may be a useful analogy to what we need to understand the variety of emotions. I produced a first draft version of this idea in this paper in an obscure journal Towards a Grammar of Emotions, in New Universities Quarterly, 36,3, pp 230-238, 1982. now available online in postscript and pdf formats here: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/cogaff/0-INDEX96-99.html#47 Thinking about the question 'Why can't a goldfish long for its mother?' may lead lots of people to similar conclusions. (DIGRESSION: I wish everyone would put their papers online so that they are easily accessible both to search engines and to people who don't subscribe to journals with a narrowly focused readership. Some ISRE members already do that: it would be good if ISRE were to recommend all to do it. I always cross out bits of copyright forms that prevent me doing that and I have never met a publisher that objected. Some publishers now even explicitly allow it in copyright forms, e.g. Elsevier, and since most of the research is paid for from public funds, the research results should be freely available to all sorts of tax-payers, especially in developing countries, which are exploited in many ways by richer countries, e.g. by employing their trained doctors and nurses and science graduates.). [Kristján] > What distinguishes those cognitive elements that can form the > basis of an emotion from those which cannot, and how can be distinguish > clearly between different emotions? Why is 'angling indignation' (the > indignation of an unlucky angler who sees other, less qualified, anglers > catching fish all around him), for instance, not a specific emotion? Or > is it?! In the framework suggested above this question can be seen as analogous to the question whether stuff composed of a particular type of complex molecules is or is not a specific kind of chemical. The answer is clearly 'yes'. Whether it is of any *interest* to give it a name or not (apart from its structural representation) may depend on what kinds of causal interactions there are between that chemical, or emotional state, and other kinds of things. For instance, 'quinine' is a label given to a substance with a particular moderately complex structure, depicted here http://sres.anu.edu.au/associated/fpt/nwfp/quinine/Quinine.html because it happens to be quite a useful substance! If, for some reason, angling indignation started manifesting itself frequently in violent attacks then newspapers might invent a name for it, as has already happened with 'road rage'. I think there is a partly analogous phenomenon that is already well known but has no name, but could be called 'patient rage' that some unfortunate doctors have experienced. Similarly 'claimant rage' in social security offices. [Kristján] > Notice that I am not interested in the question of which emotions are > most 'frequent' or 'important' or psychologically 'basic', but rather > the deeper epistemological (or even ontological) question of how to > individuate emotions. I suggest that the ontological question is best addressed in the framework of a study of architectures and mechanisms of mind and the kinds of states and processes that can be generated within such systems (including processes with varying aetiology and time-scales). That will indeed reveal an infinite (or astronomically large) variety of cases. Which special cases are worth labelling and studying will, as in the case of chemical substances and processes, depend on how they interact with other things we are interested in. I have not yet fully digested Tom Scheff's paper mentioned in this thread http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/faculty/scheff/47.html A Taxonomy of Emotions: How Do We Begin? Thomas J. Scheff but I think some of his ideas are closely related to those above. However we have a disagreement on this point in his paper: [T.J.S] > In particular, for the development of a concept, how many parts as > compared to how many wholes? It doesn't seem likely that there should > be many more wholes than parts, as in Lazarus's chapter 8. More > likely, there should be many more parts than wholes, .... A generative system in which components can be combined in various relationships to form larger wholes which in turn can be combined with other larger wholes (as in chemical compounds) will produce far more wholes than parts. This is the source of Kristján's question! If these points were generally accepted, the sciences of mind might be transformed and integrated into something deeper and richer than any of the current strands, and many pointless disputes resolved. I am not optimistic -- having tried to communicate ideas like this for about 30 years with very little success. Aaron PS I'll post an example from round the world yacht racing separately. http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ From Aaron Sloman Sun Jul 17 15:16:36 BST 2005 To: ISRE-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU Subject: Re: [ISRE-L] Individuating emotions (promised example) In responding to Kristján Kristjánsson's query about "endless, uncontrollable proliferation of kinds of emotion" I wrote: > I'll post an example from round the world yacht racing separately. > http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ Here goes: Often uncreative interviewers and broadcasters ask people who have been involved in newsworthy events inane questions whose answer is totally obvious, like 'How do you feel?' said to an olympic winner. Occasionally the answer produces something interesting. Some years ago I listened to a radio broadcast at the end of a round-the-world yacht race. An all-women team had just finished the race, coming close to winning, and the captain whose name I forget (perhaps it was Clare Francis) was asked how she felt, as she came ashore. I did not record her answer, but it had a long list of components such as these (though I don't recall the order): very happy to have finished and done so well very disappointed not to have won the race very hungry because food ran out a few days ago looking forward to a good meal awaiting her very pleased to be about to see friends and family again very sad that members of the close-knit team on the boat would no longer be together looking forward to taking part in another planned race (my memory of this one is less certain than the others) she could have added: aware of having a very complex mixture of feelings but I don't think she did! She did not say she was cycling through those states, having one of them at a time (as would be required by some emotion theories). Nor did she say she had a blend of the sort obtained by mixing colours, where none of the original colours remains, as in vector summation (as would be required by some other emotion theories). I have no reason to believe she was lying, or inventing her answer for the sake of the interviewer. Perceptive novelists often give their characters states of mind in which complex, enduring, processes interact strongly (e.g. love for a sister, hurt by a lover's unfaithfulness with the sister, anger at the sister, desiring revenge, guilt at wanting revenge because of religious beliefs, etc. etc.). Novelists do this not as some kind of science fiction, but because they observe that human minds allow such complex interacting states and processes. These things are not discovered in laboratory experiments designed for collecting numbers to feed into statistical packages. A good theory of mind needs to explain how this is possible. The yachting example, and the (invented but plausible) sister example, are more complex than the 'angler indignation' mentioned by Kristján but I think they make a closely related point: human minds use mechanisms that permit the coexistence of multiple, enduring, partially interacting, states of many kinds, of which we are mostly unconscious normally (e.g. most people are mostly unconscious of the low-level processes involved in visual perception, speech understanding, language generation -- e.g. processes involving phonemic, syntactic and semantic structures). However we can be aware of some of what's going on. One of the features of a normal adult human mind is that (unlike very young children) our information processing architecture has a sub-system with meta-semantic competence combined with self-observation, self-categorisation, and self-evaluation mechanisms. So we have a partial ability to characterise and reflect on our own states of mind. This is a product of evolution (modified by the self-descriptive categories absorbed from the current culture), and works well for many everyday purposes (e.g. asking someone who has been ill if she feels better, or an oculist asking a patient whether a line looks sharper through a new lens). But this self-observation mechanism (or mechanisms) sometimes produces excessive self-confidence in relation to the scientific or philosophical study of mind, because we don't realise how limited our self-observation is and especially how bad we are at retrospectively summarising mental states and processes. This leads to a plethora of mutually inconsistent theories of emotions, consciousness, learning, etc., which are often taken to be 'obviously true' when in fact they are false, like the often-made claim that if you have an emotion then you are aware of having it. (Novelists know better than that.) Of course, it's not just emotion theorists. Immanuel Kant, who inspired much of my thinking about minds, wrote that every judgement has two components, a subject and a predicate, in a book that was full of his own judgements with far more complex structures, including conjunctions, disjunctions, negations, conditionals, nested qualifications, etc. Accurate self-observation is not easy, especially when one has a theory to propound. I am sure I am equally guilty. Cheers. Aaron http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs/ ====================================================== NOTE: In response to the above, David Konstan, in the Classics Department at Brown University, posted a note responding to my remark that > Perceptive novelists often give their characters states of mind in which > complex, enduring, processes interact strongly" He commented that the practice goes back at least 2000 years, giving examples. Also relevant: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/cogaff/misc/isre-levels.html